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> You are 80 now, what do you want to do?, Poll for ALL guild members
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What do YOU want to do?
Do PvP! Love that Wintergrasp [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Heroics and Raids! I want Tier Gear! [ 16 ] ** [80.00%]
Level More Toons! I'm not a one toon perosn. [ 2 ] ** [10.00%]
Hang out with everyone! I just like having friends on to do stuff with. [ 1 ] ** [5.00%]
Huh? There's a point to this game? [ 1 ] ** [5.00%]
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Soylent Daveage
post Feb 24 2009, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(Svuka @ Feb 24 2009, 11:09 PM) *
Given the chatty nature of the guild, I imagine the social aspect will still stay the same biggrin.gif The Onxyia raid was VERY doable and a LOT of fun. I will research some other old time raids and set something up.

Omen! I forgot to mention the Omen raid. That was a blast and a half, I died so many times and had a ball. That was a fun raid specifically because of the fluffy nature it had. I don't think there were too many of us taking it super seriously... I mean, obviously we were there to kill Omen and we weren't leaving until it was done, but I don't think any of us was too worried about whether we died a few times (or more than a few, as the case may have been). Obviously the real raids will be far more serious, as dying would actually be detrimental, but any time we can get as many of us together as possible for one of these fluffy, fun, seasonal raids I am there with bells (and maybe a dress) on...

QUOTE(originalkitten @ Feb 25 2009, 06:05 AM) *
(and you should have had a "wearing womens clothes option for tommy!)

You're just jealous because I fill out the dresses more than you do, Kitten...

Note that I don't say "fill out the dresses better," just more...
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Svuka
post Feb 24 2009, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(Kharanos @ Feb 24 2009, 02:51 PM) *
That item requires Engineering 400, which means, if you don't have that skill and lvl, you can't use that item... There are other items that can replace that ofcourse.. smile.gif
Later


Well dang...I missed that one line in the description. I have 426 in leatherworking...so I don't think that will help. I have more than enough stuff on my list now though.
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crossbrace
post Feb 24 2009, 08:05 PM
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I'm sensing some either-or thinking here and I'd like to clarify my personal gear quest as an example. (All info checked through BeImba and its links to wowhead.) For pre-raid instances with no arena: my best available off-hand, one trinket, neck, chest, and gloves are crafted, legs and shoulders are PvP honor, boots are WG marks, wand and dagger are dungeon boss random drops, other trinket and some armor enhancements are exaulted rep required, and so on. Of the crafted items: Tori made the off-hand, I did the JC, the rest was AH. To buy the mats, gear, and enhancements have cost me over 3000 gold in the last five days. This doesn't count the mats Tori and Sorroh have consumed helping me with gear and enchants.

As a result, I am ready to do my part in heroics and beginning Northrend raiding. My point however is not "yay me," it is that I must be open to every aspect of the game to get the best possible gear. Not just farming and crafting, not just questing and buying, and not just PvP. All of it. But, aside from the constant need to generate gold, not too much of any one thing.

So now, I have my list. When I talk to a 'chanter, I know what I want. I know what gems I need. I know which bosses might drop my wand. As Svu has implied, this is actually freeing. With priorities established, I know what I need to accomplish. Do you?
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Soylent Daveage
post Feb 25 2009, 03:39 AM
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I had a look at be Imba... It told me to come back when I was level 80... But you can get suggestions (for us lower level toons) on possible upgrades to your gear at wowarmory.com. I'm sure everyone already knows that, though...

But for right now, I'm looking at getting my grubby little mitts on the Battlegear of Valor... I picked up the Belt and Gauntlets in the AH to replace some older gear, and have just now grabbed the Bracers as well, and have looked into what it would take to get the other 5 pieces... Looks like I'll be needing to hit Stratholme, Scholomance and apparently, the Hall of Blackhand...
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originalkitten
post Feb 25 2009, 06:17 AM
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LMAO I love ur siggy
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Khor
post Feb 25 2009, 08:44 AM
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Be careful no to overrate be.imba. It's a good tool, though it's quite "cold" at times. It analizes gear score, but bars are just a reference. For instance, it's almost a must for a tank to be def capped (or very close to cap)in order to run raids, however, be.imba doesn't reflect that.

And be careful as well no to over-gear, or "fear" the content. As cross was saying, he prepared, and it's well prepared. In fact, he's so prepared that it makes almost no sense for him to run heroics to get gear. In fact, he's geared enough to run much higher content, and upgrades now will come from those tougher raids.

A beautiful example is our friend Slov. If ya armory-him you'll notice rep gear (not exalted), some dungeons and drops. He even got a totem lvl 63 and a kara drop. Would you say he can do heroics? Damn right he can. We went to heroic UK and wtfpwn the place, with awesome heals. Would you say he has enough gear for raids? Damn right he has. We also did venture into Vault of Archavon, where he performed as Off-healer against a very well geared Main-Healer. Difference in heals between 'em was close, and he again did an awesome work.

Why this example? As Khar told somewhere, heroics are NOT as tough as they used to be. Blizz has made the content available to more people making it not-so-tough. Same goes for Raids. You do not need the BEST crafted gear, nor the rep gear from exalted to get to do heroics. Yoy DO need to play at your best, and the only way to do this, is go there, practice, learn and die. And research on forums. Specs and rotations are as important as gear.
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Kanae
post Feb 25 2009, 10:10 AM
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I am already looking for better ways to upgrade my DPS, so i can be more useful on a run. Gear is important, but to get it first i must check my spec and my rotation as khor said (he is helping me with that a lot, thanks honey, you are the best wink.gif ). I love instances, and i want to be able to join on the "big" runs as soon as i can.
I think you are ready to star going after some heroics and I trust you'll do just fine biggrin.gif
sky is the limit for this lovely guild biggrin.gif
I am not even 70 yet, working on 80 slowly, but I am always open (when got time tongue.gif ) for a run to somewhere or to join on a group for pvp also... I love pvp more than instances tongue.gif And I would like to try an arena someday... (if somebody know of an instance when you can kill gnomes you will make the happiest warlock on the game tongue.gif )


Well, good luck to all on the big search for the better gear!

And sorry for bad english sad.gif

Hugs to all!
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crossbrace
post Feb 25 2009, 10:26 AM
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Ok Khor, ya outed me. Warlocks are used to getting beat up all the time. I get laggy and don't always play my character as well as possible. I simply don't have, and never will have again, the quick reflexes and situational awareness some of you bring to runs. This is one reason I play locks and hunters. My response is to control what I can control, improve what I can improve, and make Crosslock as strong as possible so that I am able to hold up my end. As has been said repeatedly, both here about playing and on dA about fancy 3D software, some of you may not have the latest and greatest but you really know how to use what you have. I, on the other hand, want every possible advantage I can get. And, far from being pitable, I'm very happy this way.

The numbers now say I'm ready for 25 player Naxx. I'll never be there. Where I will be is with you, bringing the best I have -- doing the best I can. And to contradict Khor just a bit, my new wand waits for me in one of four Northrend dungeons, only one of which is heroic.

LOL, one advantage of looking geared up is that healers in WG and SotA actually do heal me once in a while now.

Finally, I echo the caution about BeImba. Remember that it cares only for raid preparation. I suspect a holy priest who completely followed BeImba's advice would have a very tough time doing Icecrown solo quests. It is a very valuable tool but you need to follow the links. You need to evaluate the advice. You need to balance the trade offs.

[Edit] Oh yeah, almost forgot. One needed JC pattern and my Arcanum will come from Kirin'Tor rep so I'm really happy to run lvl80 and heroic dungeons for the foreseeable future.
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post Feb 25 2009, 10:36 AM
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Kanae...you english is GREAT, certainly better than my spanish and better than what I see American high school kids writing.

Thanks for the advice Khor, I was using Be Imba more as a source. I used the items it identified as low level as a starting point to research better items. I googled them or looked them up on wowhead to compile my list. It is far from complete but it let me set some goals.

Right now, my goal is to increase my DPS. It is likely that i will respec a bit too, although I am basically happy with the BM/MM combo I have going, but it can be tweaked.

Khor, are there any macros you use to keep DPS up? I was thinking about setting a "send pet in and start steady shot" type of macro.
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crossbrace
post Feb 25 2009, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(Svuka @ Feb 25 2009, 10:36 AM) *
Khor, are there any macros you use to keep DPS up? I was thinking about setting a "send pet in and start steady shot" type of macro.



Be very careful about "and then" type macros. Blizzard will allow macros that emulate anything you can do by keybinding but may conside macros that "do this then do that" to be automating game play. We have had several warlocks warned and one temporarily suspended for automating spell rotations with macros. Apparently "target this then shoot it" macros are also potential problems. This came up with an Icecrown quest to shoot down planes. It was ok to automate and spam targeting, but they wanted us to push another button to shoot.
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post Feb 25 2009, 11:20 AM
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@Svu

I am no big fan of macros. Will not discuss here, since it's not important to the thread, still, there are a few macros I do use.

CODE
#showtooltip
/cast [target=focus,exists,nodead] Misdirection; [target=pet,exists,nodead] Misdirection

This will cast misdirection on your focus target (/focus while targeting your tank, once, then you will always misdirect into him) or, if you ddon't have a focus target, MD onto your pet. This is the 2nd button i push before the fight starts.

This one's spec dependent, still:
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/stopcasting
/cast Silencing Shot

As we hunters are casting Steady Shot non-stop, if you want to silence/cc a target you usually have to "wait" until SS has been shot and GCD (global cooldown) has expired before doing it. But silenicing a mob is something yoy need RIGHT NOT, not a sec later. So, this macro helps by stoping the cast and fire away your CC shot.


Last, my MOST used macro:
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#showtooltip
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast !auto shot
/cast Kill Command
/cast Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

Start auto attack, use SS and whenever it's available, Kill Comand. This is your "mash" button. You must spam this button at all times, almost non stop.

Hope this helps

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Kanae
post Feb 25 2009, 12:06 PM
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Kanae...you english is GREAT, certainly better than my spanish and better than what I see American high school kids writing.


Ty :$

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post Feb 28 2009, 04:30 AM
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Voted for “Level More Toons! I'm not a one toon perosn” (person lol). But I’m game for most of whats listed.

Hopefully I’ll get reinvigorated and get back into the game a lot more than I have recently.

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post Apr 14 2009, 02:25 PM
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My frustration is building again. Crosslock is exaulted with every Northrend faction possible. I actually am now where Khor placed me back in early March. I have reached the end of my solo road. I now must have equally geared (or almost equally geared highly skilled) players to accompany me if I am to go on. Boz, the same. Tori, the same. Bu, Ct, Zeph, and others may be here too.

Our best six or seven players, plus several Tori alts, can run every standard dungeon. There are some heroics we can do and some not. My only marginal improvements left pre-raiding come from emblems. While those improvements are slight at best, they are the only way forward for me that I see now. So I will try to be on as much as possible. Runs will be my priority. First will be the heroics we can finish and the ten player raids we think we can do with VOID. Second will be the heroics we can't finish yet. Third will be the runs that won't help me but will help you.

I have asked before. Do you know how to improve your main? Do you know what gear and skills you need? Do you know where to find that gear and learn those skills? If not, I will still enjoy your company. We will still be guild friends for a while. But you will not be helping me and our guild improve. And for a dedicated player or WoW guild, it's improve or give up.
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post Apr 14 2009, 02:36 PM
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I'm trying my very best to improve and am researching it....but health and other issues are getting in the way sad.gif Plus the time difference sucks for me. I need heroic runs and of course they usually are early hours of the morning. Im finding it harder to stay up till early hours of the morning, because of my health, so I just miss out and have to try to find other ways to improve.
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