Here's a thread for us to discuss the goings on of Ikariam. I'll begin with a description of the game for those of you who may not be familiar with it, by the man who introduced us all to it:



So in an effort to get us all connected in the game, I've looked up what you need to make embassies so that your civilization can make treaties with other civs. Here's the little flow chart I made up for the tech that you need to research in order to build embassies:

Dry-Dock (Military) > Deck Weapons (Seafaring) > Ship Maintenance (Seafaring) > Expansion (seafaring) > Foreign Cultures (Seafaring)

Conservation (Economy) > Pulley (Economy) > Wealth (Economy)

Well Digging (Science) > Paper (Science) > Espionage (Science)

Basically you need Foreign Cultures and Espionage to build embassies but in order to get those two, you have to research all the rest. So far I have Conservation and the Pulley and am researching Wealth. It'll be a process that takes a few days but we'll get it soon enough.


And for keeping track of all of us, here's everyone's current cities and islands:

Total members - 17 Total cities - 67

Oogie56 - City: Deviation, Island: Echoetia (17,45). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Colossus
Oogie56 - City: Devastation, Island: Augheetia (15,46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Gaia
Oogie56 - City: Destruction, Island: Toroos (14,46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Ares' Stronghold
Oogie56 - City: Defamation, Island: Tinoutia (15,45). Resource - Sulphur, Wonder - Colossus
TwinkyMaster - City: Metropolis, Island: Swuhios (14,45). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Ares' Stronghold
TwinkyMaster - City: Gotham City, Island: Drearoos (13:46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Colossus
TwinkyMaster - City: Coast City, Island: Omoios (12,46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
TwinkyMaster - City: Central City, Island: Augheetia (15,46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Gaia
TwinkyMaster - City: Keystone City, Island: Soghoos (18,45). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Colossus
GelfOgre - City: Ogre Patch, Island: Denytia (43,76). Resource - Sulphur, Wonder - Temple of Poseidon
GelfOgre - City: New Ogreton, Island: Taieeos (44,87). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Colossus
GelfOgre - City: Ogres Rest, Island: Omoios (12,46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
GelfOgre - City: Gelfs Tavern, Island: Ruzeios (12:45). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
GelfOgre - City: Ogres Hollow, Island: Tiaeos (45:77). Resource - Wine, Wonder -
Soylent Daveage - City: SoyTown, Island: Swuhios (14,45). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Ares' Stronghold
Soylent Daveage - City: NeoSoyville, Island: Drearoos (13:46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Colossus
Soylent Daveage - City: SoyCity, Island: Llenios (13,45). Resource - Sulphur, Wonder - Temple of Poseidon
Soylent Daveage - City: SoyShire, Island: Toroos (14:46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Ares' Stronghold
HollowPoint - City: Hollows Point, Island: Naraos (19,25). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Gaia
HollowPoint - City: Points Hollow, Island: Solios(24,21). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Garden of Dionysus
Retro22 - City: Varrock, Island: Swuhios (14,45). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Ares' Stronghold
Retro22 - City: Falador, Island: Augheetia (15,46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Gaia
Retro22 - City Ardounge, Island: Augheetia (15,46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Gaia
Retro22 - City: Lumbridge, Island: Omoios (12,46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
Retro22 - City: Edgeville, Island: Swuhios (14,45). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Ares' Stronghold
Trebor - City: Tanionuf, Island: Rotheyos (67,88). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
Trebor - City: Othyu, Island: Dikyos (70, 90). Resource: Crystal Glass, Wonder: Temple of Athene
Trebor - City: Mioramtilty, Island: Swuhios (14,45). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Ares' Stronghold
Trebor - City: Yimiltar, Island: Omoios (12,46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
Trebor - City: Fountain City, Island: Naxios (16:43). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Poseidon.
Beren1 - City: Terra, Island: Yeruos (66,69). Resource - Sulphur, Wonder - Colossus
Beren1 - City: Terran Polis, Island: Endietia (65:74). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Gaia
Zay Tolken X - City: Magvel, Island: Augheetia (15,46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Gaia
Zay Tolken X - City: Balamb, Island: Omoios (12,46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
Zay Tolken X - City: Dalmasca, Island: Tinoutia (15,45). Resource - Sulphur, Wonder - Colossus
Zay Tolken X - City: Rivendell, Island: Thrivios (13,47). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Colossus
Zay Tolken X - City: Ascalon, Island: Augheetia (15,46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Gaia
Antman256 - City: Antopolis, Island: Athietia (83:72). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Gaia
Antman256 - City: Antopia, Island: Thrivios (13,47). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Colossus
Antman256 - City: New Antopolis, Island: Omoios (12,46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
Aaron3477 - City: Spearington, Island: Swuhios (14,45). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Ares' Stronghold
Aaron3477 - City: New Echelon, Island: Omoios (12,46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
Aaron3477 - City: Knox Vegas, Island: Imytia (8,46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Poseidon
Meatballm - City: Mandichael, Island: Augheetia (15,46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Gaia
Meatballm - City: Lyndav, Island: Toroos (14,46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Ares' Stronghold
Meatballm - City: Whash, Island: Thrivios (13,47). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Colossus
Meatballm - City: Penguin, Island: Drearoos (13:46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Colossus
Pherataheo - City: Rong yeu Milk, Island: Drearoos (13:46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Colossus
Pherataheo - City: RongMilks land, Island: Thrivios (13,47). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Colossus
Pherataheo - City: Milkluvwho, Island: Omoios (12,46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
Ricutz - City: Mogo, Island: Ruzeios (12,45). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
Ricutz - City: SGO-1, Island: Llenios (13,45). Resource - Sulphur, Wonder - Temple of Poseidon
Ricutz - City: SGO-2, Island: Toroos (14,46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Ares' Stronghold
Ricutz - City: SGO-3, Island: Rhypaos (11,45). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Poseidon
Ricutz - City: SGO-4, Island: Naxios (16,43). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Poseidon.
Beanz - City: Veaduris, Island: Ruzeios (12:45). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
Beanz - City: Kyarilis, Island: Toubeios (11:44). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Temple of Poseidon
Beanz - City: Lupiste, Island: Rhypaos (11:45). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Poseidon
Beanz - City: Squished CaCO3, Island: Rhypaos (11:45). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Poseidon
Hammer - City: Metropolis, Island: Ruzeios (12:45). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
Hammer - City: Macropolis, Island: Omoios (12:46). Resource - Crystal Glass, Wonder - Temple of Hermes
Hammer - City: Polis, Island: Drearoos (13,46). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Colossus
Hammer - City: Sulphur city, Island: Llenios (13:45). Resource - Sulphur, Wonder - Temple of Poseidon
Andromeda - City: Rhovanion, Island: Maycios (46:38). Resource - Crystal, Wonder - Temple of Athene
Andromeda - City: Andropolis, Island: Neyios (28:42). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Colossus
Andromeda - City: Carillon, Island: Swyndaios (19:47). Resource - Marble, Wonder - Temple of Gaia
Andromeda - City: Berengaria, Island: Pielliios (18:47). Resource - Wine, Wonder - Garden of Dionysus

For an additional game resource, here's the Guides and FAQs thread on the Ikariam forum.


To join the Halls Alliance, follow this Step-by-Step guide. The name is Alliance of Hys with HoH as the token.

Awesome idea there Twinks, I think this should be fun.

I'm on Echoetia, located at 17:45. My town is called Deviation, because I am trying to be different damn it.

I also moved the topic over here, since it really fits better in the gaming section than it does in the Main.

Thanks, Oogie. I made the topic in the Halls forum because it was closest and then as soon as I did, I realized it wasn't quite appropriate. I tried to move it myself but discovered that I didn't have the ability to do that. Blast! All this power but still limitations!



Anyway, it's taking me over 12 hours to get Wealth and I'm pouring all my people and wood into improving my Academy. Should be less than 5 hours now. How's everyone else doing?

My Academy is lvl 2 and my estimate for Wealth says 14 hours. I have lvl 2 barracks and town hall as well. Lvl 1 walls and Harbor. Probably should have held off on the port, since you cant really do any trading until you get wealth.

Also I've been attacked by one of my neighbors. Raided me for 23 lumber. DAMN HIM!!

*GelfOgre shakes fist at neighbor.

I was gonna ask if anyone had been attacked yet. I put up walls fairly early and figured that deterred any of my neighbors. I noticed the same thing with the Port. Could've waited on that but oh well. Looks like you're pretty well evened out with the advancements, Gelf. I mainly focused on the Academy so I could get my research done faster. I'm up to level 3 with 3 hours to go for Wealth. That's about as high as I'm gonna be able to go because level 4 needs crystal glass and I don't have any on my island.

I just managed to max my scientists to 12, which lowered the estimate to 8 hours.

Meanwhile I'm thinking about building the warehouse next.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the warehouses. I just started upgrading my barracks (mostly because I couldn't think of anything else to do while I research). BTW, at level 3 academy, I've got 16 scientists. But like I said, unless you've got a source of crystal glass, you can't get any higher.


So Gelf, how soon until you build a tavern? We all wanna come visit.

*retro22 drools

IM COMING!


*retro22 runs off to make an account

*TwinkyMaster rubs his hands together menacingly.

Excellent. I knew it was just a matter of time.

i just hadnt seen the link >.>

im so far behind!.....

NOOOOOOOOOO


Seyckoos = Island
Varrock = Town
(79,44)

I'll work on some strategies and if they pan out ill tell you

as for crystal glass, that's my trade good .

and where did you find the tech tree? FAQ?

don't have time to check now, off to class...back after


By the way, im not sure how much economy we have, but i think our goal should be gain our own island ...there's lots of 0's around me(withing a few squares)...just for reference.

Here is my town as it currently stands:

Town Hall-level 4
Acadamy-Level 4
Barracks, Shipyard, and POrt-Level 3
Warehouse-Level 2

I'm 8 hours away from getting Expansion. After that I'll be building my palace!

Key piece of early advice: Getting Wealth is important. You will obtain 50 of each of the Luxury materials when you get it. While this isn't much, it is enough to get to level 4 on most of the basic structures. It also allows you to begin to harvest your island's luxury item (wine, sulfur, crystal, or marble). I have wine, and I'm pulling a good bit of it per hour. You can get your Town Hall to level 4 with some marble, and Acadamy to level 4 with some crystal. Put everyone you can in Research right off the bat. That takes the longest.

There is a large island cluster just north of me, somewhere in the 15:44 area. I'll be placing a colony there, on one of the zero islands, when I get a chance. If everyone else wants to join me there, I'll welcome you all. However, from a friend who got me into this, to build a colony you must have:

A Palace level 1 or better
12,000 Gold
5 cargo ships
300ish wood
40 citizens available

So it's not the easiest thing in the world.

Wow, look it Oogie go. I figured Wealth was the way to go. Only a few hours left to go.

And a island just of Hallsians sounds... well kinda familiar. I like the idea, Retro. Does anyone know if there are any penalties to colonizing an island that's really far away from your own? I know in the Civ games, the further you got away from your capital, the harder it was on your people. Anyone heard of anything like that in this?


BTW Retro, you can read the tech in the FAQs under Research and also once you build an Academy, you have access to a library that tells ya want you need for different advancements.

Not sure about how it affects the happiness of the people. Haven't gotten there yet. I do know that it takes time for your ships to go back and forth. So if your island has marble, and the new one has sulfer, and you are shipping them back and forth, it may take something like 1 hour to go each way. Further island may take longer. That's the only thing I know for sure at this point.

BEER!!!!!

You can build a tavern, which increases the happiness of your folks. But you must have wine, which I'm getting in abundance.

wow thanks for the tips oogs

and if\when we do get all on a 0 island then we all put in to make our resource more abundant, so which resource do we want to collaborate on?(and which wonder for our bonus?)...basically choose the isle wisely

Uhm, my town is called Polis ('til I come up with something else) the Island is Rotheyos, and it's at 67, 88

Woot, more peeps. I'm pretty far behind atm, but thtas ohkay, I'll get what I need. I need my wall to hurry, so I can upgrade my Academy...

Dammit. This jerk-o attacked me AGAIN. He's coming at me with 11 slingers and 7 Phalanx against my piddling little 3 slingers.

Luckily, all he pillaged was 1g, but all my defenders got slaughtered. Grrrrrr.

Ouch, that's rough, Gelf. You could try sending a message to someone else on the island telling 'em that you're getting beat up by this other guy and ask for some assistance in at least drawing some of the dude's attention. Let 'em know that you'll pay him back once you get a trading post.

yeah that would seem a logical course of action.

I havent contacted anyone on my isle yet. but I plan to once I'm slightly more established.

on a related note: I'll be over to help once I can get there o.0;

Gelf, send me the dude who's attacking you's info. I've got a little something in mind that should fix his wagon pretty well.

* Name: Ylivieska
* Town size: 4
* Player: Freezo
* Ally: -
Denytia[43:76]

Make him cry for his mommy!

Sheesh, with all the higher level towns you've got on your island, you're being attacked by a 4? Although, now that I think of it, he's probably attacking you because you're one of the only ones below him.


BTW, I've updated everyone's info in the first post with their island's luxury resource and deity's wonder. Just thought it might come in handy at some point. If there's anything incorrect, let me know and I'll fix it right quick.

Wow, I think it's time to stop sending out workers, cuz now my income is equal to my expenses, so I won't be gaining money anytime soon.

I've got a temple of poseidon on my isle, not the ares one.

I guess I should mention my name on there is Bor_Immortal.

Wow, I'm the only one who "lucked" out and got wine. I guess I'll be shipping loads out to all of you fairly soon. I'll take just about anything in return, when I figure out how exactly to do that.

I got pretty lucky. My Wonder increases the amount of Marble I can get. Woot.

and mine will SERIOUSLY help in naval battles

im the protector


BTW anyone know how to get more population growth?

Nope, but what I need from you Retro, or Daveage, is Crystal. Although I think we all need some crystal.

*retro22 grins....

MINE all mine!....muahahhaha

nah just kidding...but i need to be able to trade first

Alrighty, I've finally got this little burg up and running... well, somewhat, anyways... Wealth is only a few short hours away and after that comes the glass mining, so I'll be sitting at:

Lvl 3:
Academy
Lvl 2:
Town Hall
Port
Lvl 1:
Barracks
Warehouse

Next project will be some city walls, methinks. Although everyone has been passive here so far... And I've built a few cargo ships while I'm cash rich (and resource poor) to make sure I have a head start on that aspect.

--BE AWARE!--
Your cargo ships become more expensive with each ship you buy. The first one is only 120 gold, the second is like 244, the third cost me around 395 or so, the fourth will be over 800 gold.

Lessee, I'm sittin at Lvl 3 town hall, lvl 3 academy, lvl 2 barracks, lvl 1 wall, warehouse and port. In about 20 minutes, I'll be mining me some marble. Then, it's on to ship building stuff.

My current status: Broke. and all my army deserted.

Other than that, I'm going gang busters

Townhall lvl 4
Academy lvl 4
Barracks lvl 3
Walls, Warehouse, Trading Post, Port, and Shipyard - lvl 1

Known:
* Conservation
* Pulley
* Wealth
* Well Digging
* Paper
* Dry-Dock
* Maps

Developing: Professional Army (17 hours)

As a note the population grows faster if they are happy and they become happy by having a tavern, which provides a static bonus and anouther bonus if wine is served, so higher level means higher static bonus and higher possible wine serving amount for higher bonus the wine is much higher than the static value.

The other way to make citizens happy is to build a museam and make cultural alliances with people which recquires whatever the science upgrade is after Ink. (edited) (Which would be cultural exchange)

I'm in Theta, and just noticed this thread.

Ok I joined Eta, my island is 66,67 city Terra. I have sulphur and my wonder is the collossus, which according to the forums doesn't work yet. Also I am sad not to have a laboratory anymore. Or an expansion... or wealth...or wow that one is fun.

So, I made a mistake, I think. After I got wealth, and got 50 of each of the trade items, just as an experiment, I shipped 20 units of wine to a neighbor on my island. It got there, unloaded, and came back, but I dont think I got any money for it. Did I just give a neighbor 20 wine, or is it sitting there, or what?

well my inclination(not knowledge) is that yes you sent 20 wine away. but honestly I dont know.

and welcome beren

hope this hasnt set you TOO far behind whatever you had on theta

He's been playing for quite awhile, so probably, but he also knows exactly what to do now, so he'll make fewer mistakes. That, and I think you can register on each world.

oh im sure you can as theyre likely just different servers...though i know it's hard to lose a level 70 character and go down to a level 10...although as said he knows what to do.


cheers and competition .


by the way, I think that every scientist cuts down on the research time by about 6 minutes, though im not completely sure.

I have an actual name now, Tanionuf

It looks like about 8 minutes for me. It probably goes up the more advanced your academy is.


BTW, Trebor's city name is updated in the first post as well as all of Beren's info.

Gelf, you sent your neighbor a nice gift. However, sine I have wine, I'll be shipping it out to most everyone on a fairly regular basis. So don't feel too bad. BUt once you get a trading post, you can put stuff up for sale.

I put some of my sulpher up for sale, for 20 a unit. So far no takers.

im not bothering with selling anything just yet, though if i were to it would definitley be sulfur, as that drives war.


on a related note, here is a graphic(if not confusing) tech tree:

Oh sweet. Thanks for that, Retro. I'm a very visual person and that's part of the reason I did the chart in the first post, so I could see what all I needed for Embassies. This is even better.



Oh btw, I've got a metric buttload of marble. Been stockpiling it faster than I can use it so once I can connect with you guys, I should have plenty to go around.

Send me marble Twinks, and I'll send you wine. That's open for everyone, by the way. I'm in dire need of marble. Oh, and I got my Acadamy to 5, a Tavern at 1, and a PALACE at 1. I've now got the needed 5 ships, 1000 of the 1250 wood, but only about 500 gold of the 12K I need to found a colony! Soon I'll have a second city. Oh, and if I calculated correctly, I'll be able to build an Embassy sometime around 6am Friday morning (I've got 9 hours to research Espionage, then another 26 hours to research foreign cultures). The Alliance of Hysteria will soon form!